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Cpyleitz 發表於 2013-9-9 20:24
good thread. I love brassy M. Just sold an M4 bp and missed it dearly, only a brassy MP can crunch m ...
I love naturally brassed M too!
Pandachief 發表於 2013-9-10 09:25
I love naturally brassed M too!
Very true that even a camera layman likes brassed M than a full paint one.
Learnt alot, thanks!
本帖最後由 Pandachief 於 2013-9-11 14:25 編輯
Pandachief's Tips #4
Let's talk about screw mount Leica black paint and focus in Leica II and III this time.
There's more Leica II black paint than Leica II in chrome so chrome Leica II is actually rarer, it is the only Leica camera that have more chrome model produced than black paint.In fact, Leica II in chrome is so much rarer because back in days, Leica offer a conversion service to turn Leica Chrome into Black Paint and a lot of Chrome Leica II went through such service.
Leica II and Leica III both have black paint body. However, the non-black paint parts are Nickel insteal of chrome. It shows a golden colour and match the black paint very well. The shutter speed dail, shutter button, the bottom plate release button, strap lug of Leica III are all in nickel.
Leica II and III's black paint is glossy in colour and will not develop bubble, they are also more durable paint and will not brass as easy. There's stories why older Leica's black paint seems better made... let's share that later.
There's some very late Leica II and Leica III black paint camera with chrome parts instead of nickel. They are rarer that standard model and can match with later chrome lens well. Late Leica II also equip with strap lug, but still no slow shutter speed dail.
Due to the lack of slow shutter speed dail on the Leica II and earlier Leica camera such as Leica standard, they usually comes with lens with the focusing knob stopped at around 11'o clock instead of 7 o'clock.Those lens cannot be fixed to Leica III and later camera.
One point worth mentioning is for Leica II and III black paint, they have the so call "Export" model that are sold outside of Germany usually distributed in the US. They will have the engraving "Germany" inside the accessories shoe, and the letter engraving in the release knob of the bottom plate were engraved "open" and "close" in english instead of in German. They are slightly rarer and I really love them.
One last point to note, there's some variations of leather colour mainly on Leica II, some of them comes with a more brownish colour instead of black. Usually the earlier one and I do love the look of that too!
Like to add another feature: only the later Leica III can fit SCNOO winder; and the best matching is BP and Nickel controls. But SCNOO also comes in BP with Chrome controls, and full Chrome finish.
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Very informative ... Thanks for sharing
thx a lot. I know my Leica more.
I will restart this sharing from tomorrow!! Thanks for the comments!
Pandachief 發表於 2014-3-27 17:27
I will restart this sharing from tomorrow!! Thanks for the comments!
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Thank you thank you veru informative.
As a new comer, is it a good start to look for a M4 BP in the "list" in cameraquest? anyother good tips
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Pinger 發表於 2014-4-16 11:03
Thank you thank you veru informative.
As a new comer, is it a good start to look for a M4 BP in the ...
for vintage BP, I also started with M4 BP :-)