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 樓主| 發表於 2013-8-7 10:36:37 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Pandachief 於 2013-8-7 10:37 編輯
M3fans 發表於 2013-8-7 10:30
This is great. We sometimes brought different versions of a particular disc we like...SACD, Gold d ...

For older recordings, nothing can compare to first press CD. First press West Germany CD and First press demo Japanese version are my favorite.

The key is the original first master tape always is the one with most information... no matter how you remaster it later, the master tape already worn out after so many years! Boosting dynamic will lost a lot of small details, this is the case with most remastering of old recordings.

To me, first press CD or LP is the only key to original good sound.
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Don't worry.

I can drag you further into the dark hole of LP after Antfi Hing gives you a push into the HiFi world !
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-8-7 10:39:11 | 顯示全部樓層
kgv 發表於 2013-8-7 09:22
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KGV,

FM Acoustic is one of the top brand in Hi Fi, their 1 series are so small, each gear only size of 2 M camera.

The entire setup is smaller than a standard VHS player.
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Ops, FM Acoustic is very good and can really fit into Hong Kong household very well.  
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Pandachief 發表於 2013-8-7 10:36
For older recordings, nothing can compare to first press CD. First press West Germany CD and First ...

I think first press CDs are not easy to get and easily out of press. Would you mind sharing where you usually shop for first press CDs?
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-8-7 10:45:15 | 顯示全部樓層
M3fans 發表於 2013-8-7 10:41
I think first press CDs are not easy to get and easily out of press. Would you mind sharing where  ...

eBay... and local second hand CD shops.  But I got almost all I wanted years ago.. approx. 500 first press CD collected.

Now I listen to them and enjoying them.
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-8-7 10:46:14 | 顯示全部樓層
ww129 發表於 2013-8-7 10:38
Don't worry.

I can drag you further into the dark hole of LP after Antfi Hing gives you a push ...

LP is a must. Let's drag Ming into Hi Fi together.
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Pandachief 發表於 2013-8-7 10:36
For older recordings, nothing can compare to first press CD. First press West Germany CD and First ...

IMHO first press CD is the best digital source but still incomparable to LP!
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KGV兄,

FM Acoustic 好啊, 一嘢到站唔使再兜兜轉轉.
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-8-7 10:47:32 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 Pandachief 於 2013-8-7 10:48 編輯
ww129 發表於 2013-8-7 10:46
IMHO first press CD is the best digital source but still incomparable to LP!

Totally agree!!! LP have a special analog dynamic and musical tone. But CD can get very close but the effort in achieving it is huge!!

It is like film VS digital.

I also collect first press LP too!
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goodies 發表於 2013-8-7 10:46
KGV兄,

FM Acoustic 好啊, 一嘢到站唔使再兜兜轉轉.

I just sold a couple FM acoustic gear to a reseller... should have offer to let KGV a try at home.
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kgv 發表於 2013-8-7 09:22
嘩!你班友 ... 害人 wallet ... 好彩,我老婆講到明,“大舊”的一蓋唔準入屋!

That's Leica M lenses - no restrictions...
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We will talior make a HiFi Solution for both KGV and Ming....
Poison Poison...
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Pandachief 發表於 2013-8-7 10:47
Totally agree!!! LP have a special analog dynamic and musical tone. But CD can get very close but  ...

Very well said.

To me, digital source is convenient and too "accurate" but short from getting close to reality. As High Fidelity means loyal to reality, it should closely resemble what can be heard in a concert hall in a natural environment and nothing more or less.  No excessive editing and exaggeration should be done. Unfortunately, this is not so in today's CDs, especially those DDD version.

Just my two cents.
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ww129 發表於 2013-8-7 11:00
Very well said.

To me, digital source is convenient and too "accurate" but short from getting c ...

...soon you guys are going into direct cut LPs, the ultimate poison in disc.
Wish to see more thread from experts here on this area soon
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ww129 發表於 2013-8-7 11:00
Very well said.

To me, digital source is convenient and too "accurate" but short from getting c ...

....means loyal to reality
Thats the reason I picked Cello, following some of the foot steps from some local HiFi Masters here in Hong Kong.
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Antfi 發表於 2013-8-7 11:30
....means loyal to reality
Thats the reason I picked Cello, following some of the foot steps from ...

x 2. That's one of the reasons why I have no more intention to change my gears after acquiring Cello !
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ww129 發表於 2013-8-7 11:00
Very well said.

To me, digital source is convenient and too "accurate" but short from getting c ...

Well said! Nowadays Hi Fi tend to move to the direct of excessive "effects"...  no longer enjoying the music.
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Pandachief 發表於 2013-8-7 11:50
Well said! Nowadays Hi Fi tend to move to the direct of excessive "effects"...  no longer enjoying ...

Can't agree more. That's why original old version LPs in mint condition are gems nowadays.
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-8-7 12:05:22 | 顯示全部樓層
ww129 發表於 2013-8-7 11:56
Can't agree more. That's why original old version LPs in mint condition are gems nowadays.

Luckily (Or sadly), the music nowadays are not very good too! So old LP/CD with old music are all that we need.

If the newer modern music are good, we are force to listen to those ultra 3D mastering for so call Hi Fi CD. Or some very bad almost home made recording quality CD.
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